Microsoft and ThinkingBox-Training Released: Qwen3.8-27B Repeat Success Rate Improved 2.8x

·2026.10.27 18:30

Key point

The number of tasks where Qwen3.8-27B achieved 20 consecutive successes increased from 38 to 107.

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Details

  • Microsoft and Hugging Face have open-sourced ThinkingBox-Training, which uses DB state determination as reinforcement learning reward
  • Training Qwen3.8-27B for 50 steps with GRPO increased the number of tasks with 20 consecutive successes from 38 (7.50%) to 107 (21.10%), a 2.8x increase
  • The cost per task for repeat success decreased by 67.2% from $24.36 to $8.00, but pass@20 dropped from 89.35% to 87.97%
  • As of October 25, 2026, immediate reproduction is not possible due to inaccessibility of the required data repository

Training Mechanism and Configuration

  • The GRPO algorithm is used to select only tasks with mixed successes and failures to secure training signals
  • Offline policy relative difficulty is estimated as a posterior distribution based on a Jeffreys prior to filter difficulty intervals
  • The environment uses 24 H100s (3 nodes) with the AdamW optimizer and the Verl 0.9.0 framework

Model Comparison and Cost Analysis

  • After training, Qwen3.8-27B's pass@1 rose to 60.78%, but it did not reach Claude Opus 5.5 (67.16%) or GPT-5.4 (65.36%)
  • In the repeat success (all 20 successes) metric, GPT-6 Astra (231 tasks) and Claude Opus 5.5 (241 tasks) still hold the advantage
  • The 20-consecutive-success rate in the retail domain rose the most, from 24.5% to 49.0%

Limitations and Reproduction Conditions

  • The results are interpreted as a sharpening phenomenon where the probability distribution concentrates on repeatedly passing paths
  • Benchmark data is restricted to evaluation only, requiring separate task preparation for training reproduction
  • There are inconsistencies between the paper and the blog regarding evaluation settings (maximum length, parser) and error handling methods

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