1930s-Knowledge LLM Released
Key point
Revealed the performance and limitations of talkie, a 13B vintage LLM trained on pre-1931 text.
Details
talkie-1930-13b is a 13B vintage LLM trained on a corpus of 260 billion tokens, not 26 billion, of pre-1931 English text. Compared to a modern twin of the same architecture (trained on FineWeb), it lags behind in knowledge evaluations, but excluding questions anachronistic to the 1930 timeframe, the performance gap narrowed by about half.
- As a contamination-free experimental model, it was used to measure generalization and prediction ability from a past point in time.
- On HumanEval-style Python tasks it was far weaker than modern models, but it increasingly solved simple one-line programs and small edit-type problems well.
- Cases were also found where later knowledge leaked in, such as President Roosevelt and the New Deal, making temporal leakage filtering a key challenge.
Data quality was also a major bottleneck. Historical text transcribed with existing OCR had training efficiency of about 30% compared to human transcriptions, and even after regex cleanup it reached only about 70%. To improve this, a vintage OCR system is being developed.
For post-training, instead of modern chat data, they reconstructed formal Q&A, summaries, and dialogue data from historical documents. Adding synthetic prompts and DPO based on Claude Sonnet 4.6 judgments raised the instruction-following score from 2.0 to 3.4/5.
Going forward, the team aims to scale up to a GPT-3-level model and a historical corpus of over 1 trillion tokens.
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